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Regarding the following releases that are currently filed under Island Records (US), onelittle says ''There are a few I reckon are miscatalogued, they look like UK/EU issues to me, missing a secondary cat#. Any thoughts on these? I'm right in saying that these are v unlikely to be US, yes?''
 
Regarding the following releases that are currently filed under Island Records (US), onelittle says ''There are a few I reckon are miscatalogued, they look like UK/EU issues to me, missing a secondary cat#. Any thoughts on these? I'm right in saying that these are v unlikely to be US, yes?''
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** ''I asked one of the people who had it in their collection, and they said they actually had the US edition, http://www.discogs.com/release/223262 and they went ahead and swapped them in their collection. So now I asked the submitter (necnac), who confirmed that his is UK in origin. Specifically, he says "I always thought my copy was an US-pressing because of the way the vinyl looked and the innersleeve i had initially was an American custom one. An investigation of vinyl, label and cover didn't give me any hard evidence as to where the record might have been pressed. However i did find the following groove etching; on side A; "Graeme" and "ILPS 9761 A-2U-1-1-1",  on side B "Masterdisk HW", ILPS 9761 B-2U-1-1-1 and SFIL-835292-(And then an unreadable character, looks a bit alike a B). Seen "Graeme" etched in more Island Records UK pressings. On the back cover the adres of Islands London office has been printed. These were the two clues i could find. So i think my copy is an UK pressing after all." I've submitted an update.'' - mjb
 
** ''I asked one of the people who had it in their collection, and they said they actually had the US edition, http://www.discogs.com/release/223262 and they went ahead and swapped them in their collection. So now I asked the submitter (necnac), who confirmed that his is UK in origin. Specifically, he says "I always thought my copy was an US-pressing because of the way the vinyl looked and the innersleeve i had initially was an American custom one. An investigation of vinyl, label and cover didn't give me any hard evidence as to where the record might have been pressed. However i did find the following groove etching; on side A; "Graeme" and "ILPS 9761 A-2U-1-1-1",  on side B "Masterdisk HW", ILPS 9761 B-2U-1-1-1 and SFIL-835292-(And then an unreadable character, looks a bit alike a B). Seen "Graeme" etched in more Island Records UK pressings. On the back cover the adres of Islands London office has been printed. These were the two clues i could find. So i think my copy is an UK pressing after all." I've submitted an update.'' - mjb
  
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==Ariola pseudo-misfiles==
 
Once we're certain about which Island-branded releases were issued by Ariola, we can file them all under both Ariola and Island. Some are currently under Ariola ''instead'' of Island, so we need to figure out which of those Ariola items are Island-branded, and then get them filed under the appropriate Island in Discogs.
 
Once we're certain about which Island-branded releases were issued by Ariola, we can file them all under both Ariola and Island. Some are currently under Ariola ''instead'' of Island, so we need to figure out which of those Ariola items are Island-branded, and then get them filed under the appropriate Island in Discogs.
  
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** ''That is definitely Dacapo. There's a ##.######.## catalogue number in the upper left. So these scans are of a release from Portugal and/or Spain, I'd say. I've written to the submitter (diseone) for clarification.'' - mjb
 
** ''That is definitely Dacapo. There's a ##.######.## catalogue number in the upper left. So these scans are of a release from Portugal and/or Spain, I'd say. I've written to the submitter (diseone) for clarification.'' - mjb
  
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* http://www.discogs.com/release/223123 - cat# 572 551-2?
 
* http://www.discogs.com/release/223123 - cat# 572 551-2?
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** ''I contacted the submitter (m_nu).'' - mjb
 
** ''I contacted the submitter (m_nu).'' - mjb
  
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* http://www.discogs.com/release/618159 - Island Records (Germany) ? ''the UK issue had an IS xxx #''
 
* http://www.discogs.com/release/618159 - Island Records (Germany) ? ''the UK issue had an IS xxx #''
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* http://www.discogs.com/release/549933 - ''There is a DE edition (filed under Ariola) in with this same cat# but different B-side tracks: http://www.discogs.com/release/486859. I saw the "UK" one at a shop and it had the same "Taken from the album - Uprising - 202 462-320" printed on the A-side label as can be seen on the DE release in Discogs, but it also looked very new and was possibly a clever bootleg. Could not determine its origin.'' - mjb
 
* http://www.discogs.com/release/549933 - ''There is a DE edition (filed under Ariola) in with this same cat# but different B-side tracks: http://www.discogs.com/release/486859. I saw the "UK" one at a shop and it had the same "Taken from the album - Uprising - 202 462-320" printed on the A-side label as can be seen on the DE release in Discogs, but it also looked very new and was possibly a clever bootleg. Could not determine its origin.'' - mjb
  
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Possible partial cat#s, which might result in misfilings.
 
Possible partial cat#s, which might result in misfilings.
  
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* http://www.discogs.com/release/10425 - as above
 
* http://www.discogs.com/release/10425 - as above
  
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Revision as of 19:53, 19 April 2006

This is part of the Island Records research for Discogs.

Island Records (US) misfiles

Regarding the following releases that are currently filed under Island Records (US), onelittle says There are a few I reckon are miscatalogued, they look like UK/EU issues to me, missing a secondary cat#. Any thoughts on these? I'm right in saying that these are v unlikely to be US, yes?

Ariola pseudo-misfiles

Once we're certain about which Island-branded releases were issued by Ariola, we can file them all under both Ariola and Island. Some are currently under Ariola instead of Island, so we need to figure out which of those Ariola items are Island-branded, and then get them filed under the appropriate Island in Discogs.

I have made a 'first-pass' of possible errors on Ariola Germany 11 Apr 06. This is in no way a complete list, and all need confirming - onelittle

Other misfiles and mistakes

Island Records (UK) misfiles

Island Records (UK) inconsistent filing

Possible partial cat#s, which might result in misfilings.

onelittle: quite often @ discogs, UK and INT cat#s are split between parent and sublabel. Eg, a 90s release on ZTT will have its INT cat# listed as a Warners one as it matches the parents' patterns (see http://www.discogs.com/history?release_id=636878 - ahem). My opinion is; of course it does, because the label is part of that group at time of release. UK and INT cat#s should always be on the same label IMO. (Also, as we are not cataloguing distributor links atm, we shouldn't try to interlink sublabels in such a way). This problem affects most major labels; below is a list of inconsistencies in Island UK where I believe there is no need for Island UK to be listed as a label - this should be implied by the subsidiary label's affiliation at the time of release.

I'll need to sleep on that one for a while - mjb

checked up through 600 249 / Bob Marley & The Wailers / Could You Be Loved

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