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| − | ===Island Records (US) misfiles===
| + | ''See [[Island Records questionable entries]].'' |
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| − | Regarding the following releases that are currently filed under Island Records (US), onelittle says ''There are a few I reckon are miscatalogued, they look like UK/EU issues to me, missing a secondary cat#. Any thoughts on these? I'm right in saying that these are v unlikely to be US, yes?''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/612934 - Tuff Gong?
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| − | ** ''Doubtful. I suspect Island Records (Australia). I emailed the submitter (guzzer).'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''I checked with tosmcgee about http://www.discogs.com/release/584327 possibly being a dupe. His reply (edited): "In the spine and barcode area on the left 846 197-2 and TGDCD1. Tuff Gong logo is more prominent than Island logo. Made in France. The copyright in this sound recording is owned by Island Records inc and is exclusively licensed to Island Records ltd in the UK". However, it's perfectly plausible that a foreign (likely Austrailian) copy would exclude TGDCD1 and therefore not be a dupe! Things to doublecheck then are does it mention TGDCD1 anywhere, does it mention country of mfr.'' - onelittle
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| − | ** ''guzzer says that his copy of http://www.discogs.com/release/612934 is "marketed by Polygram in Australia under exclusive licence from Island. Usually Island releases in Australia were licenced to Festival and carried a Festival Cat #. But there are some exceptions on Polygram (such as the Rebirth of Cool Series)" ... so I'll submit an update to fix the label and country on that one.'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''guzzer submitted an update to change it to Island UK (argh!). I notified him of the error and explained how we're currently doing Australian releases.'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/615509 - Tuff Gong?
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| − | ** ''Doubtful. I suspect Island Records (Australia). I emailed the submitter (guzzer).'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''guzzer says "Island UK - probably I copied over track details etc from an existing release and forgot to change the country. Apologies"'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''If it's Island UK it's likely to be co-branded Tuff Gong with a TGDCD #…'' - onelittle
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| − | ** ''Yup. guzzer submitted an edit to add the Tuff Gong number, but he forgot to change the country of release from US to UK. I notified him.'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/474063 - Island UK?
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| − | ** ''I suspect Australia. I emailed the submitter (vargind).'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''vargind confirmed it was Australian, so I submitted an [http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=1616158 update]. He says he also submitted the UK cassette, which has the same int'l cat# on it but also has a UK # that he forgot to enter. I submitted the [http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=1616156 update] for that as well. Along those same lines, I've also noticed a U2 Rattle and Hum pair of CDs, one from Brazil and one from Australia, that have identical int'l (primary) and UK cat#s on them...'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/239442 - almost certainly 4th & B'way UK, BRW 304
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| − | ** ''I have 12BRW 304 and it has 854 171-1 on it. I've submitted an [http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=1588433 update] for it, and I emailed the submitter (Darafayen) to check for the BRW number on his 7".'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/239439 - almost certainly 4th & B'way UK, BRW 340 (see http://www.moon-palace.de/tricky/promo-1.html)
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| − | ** ''Actually it's listed on http://www.moon-palace.de/tricky/solo1.html ...I emailed the submitter (Darafayen) to check for the BRW number.'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/407157 - poss a dupe of http://www.discogs.com/release/166954 (tho, I think there was a second CD with the same tracklisting in fancy packaging, BRCDX 259 - can't quite remember)
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| − | ** ''Almost certainly not US. I have several Disposable Heroes singles from that time period and they have full 162-### ###-2 numbers (though sometimes the first hyphen is missing) or are promos with PRCD ###-2. I've emailed the submitter (BRUCE1991).'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/39307 - likely to be a dupe of http://www.discogs.com/release/199219
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/585913 - dupe of http://www.discogs.com/release/56372 ?
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| − | ** ''The "US" one looks like maybe it's Australian, per a listing on reeferrecords.com. That vendor enters cat#s with no spaces or punctuation. Also, it was submitted by someone in Sydney (555xtrafunk). I've written to him but he's in Denmark at the moment and won't be back home to check on his records till mid-April.'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''guzzer says "Reefer records owner lives in my building so I'll ask him to check the release"'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/450702 - dupe of http://www.discogs.com/release/94393 ? very unsure 'bout that one
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| − | ** ''No sign of the "US" cat# on the scans of the other one. It was submitted by the same guy as the one above (555xtrafunk), so I'll ask him about both of them.'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/198421 - dupe of http://www.discogs.com/release/71802 - check the scans
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| − | ** ''I contacted the submitter (BRUCE1991) and one of the people with it in their collection. Submitter says "only 1 number cat# on my copy 878 561-1 nothing about 12W...The label sticker is different of the one on your link. Only 1 cat on Island, it seems that I didn't make a mistake" and the person with it in their collection says they have the latter one (71802) which looks like the scans. So I'd say there's two separate releases'' - mjb
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| − | ** ''Ah, interesting. Did he specify if it was a US or EU issue? I'd expect US issues to use a longer xxx-xxx xxx-x code'' - onelittle
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| − | ** ''Didn't specify. I'll ask. The one with two cat#s is certainly EU given all the things on the label.'' -mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/310505 - wrongly formatted cat# ?
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| − | ** ''I emailed the submitter (al1) and the person who edited the release date (goleador). I couldn't find any useful info via Google or GEMM. goleador says his has cat# 12 GOGO 1 (only) and RECORDING MADE BY T.T.E.D. RECORDS, and he thinks it's a US release. I disagree. Sounds like a 4th & B'way UK release to me. I'm asking him for more details.'' -mjb
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| − | ** ''The thing I dont get here is the existing cat# _looks_ like a post '89 cat#. This doesn't make sense from a date POV. Also, I don't remember ever seeing any post-'89 releases with a 880 xxx-x prefix on any Island label. Reformatted? Licensed to another EU label? I agree that 12 GOGO 1 is going to be a UK issue, so goleador might have the op to do a new sub if al1's isn't UK.'' - onelittle
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| − | ** ''http://www.tted.net/ under the 1985 March timeline: "Red & The Boys arrive in England for a press tour to support Movin And Groovin for TTED/ 4th & B'way / Island Records" - so in the UK it was def licensed to 4th&Bway from American label TTED''
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| − | ** ''al1 says "Country of the release is for sure France. I can see three logos : Island, 4th & Broadway, & TTED Records". I am asking him to confirm whether 4th & B'way is prominent on the labels.''
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| − | ** ''ok, so goleador prob needs to make a new sub for 12 GOGO 1. Re: al1s logos: I have seen similar releases on 4th & Bway to compare with - many early 4th & Bway 12"s were licensed from NYC labels, and retained the original labels' logo, the 4th&Bway logo and the Island "manufactured and distributed by" logo: it's on 4th&Bway, licensed from TTED, manufactured by Island.'' - onelittle
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| − | ** ''another thought: the 880 prefix is going to be a Phonogram one (or Mercury / Vertigo etc). Island released stuff in France thru them (eg check http://www.discogs.com/label/Phonogram+GmbH for the French ZTT releases from the same era). If it is via a Phonogram label, how is this handled?''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/368223 - Brazil ??
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/479687 - Germany ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/96049 - Germany? (why does it give NL as country?)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/84268 - could be US, needs checking
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/216860 - German, 4th & B'way, [http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=1567665 being merged]
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/219293 - ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/260793 - ? NL, maybe?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/64179 - ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/33656 - ? djrez1 will be able to sort this one out
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/353114 - ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/255689 - 510 347-1 doesn't help much, could be UK, EU or (if it's missing a prefix) US
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/39452 - 4th & B'way (see scan), poss UK
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/39299 - ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/245594 - (reggae mods are all shit) - check scans added after sub - Mango, part of Reggae Chronicles. needs checking.
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| − | ** ''Scans make it quite clear. Also confirmed with guzzer, who has the CD. I submitted an update to fix the labels, country and cat#, but I didn't mention Chronicles. That should be in the notes I think. http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=1612627'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/387495 - UK
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/421406 - aaaaaargh
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/58563 - UK
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/616908 - prob missing a second cat#, prob UK
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| − | ** ''Indeed. guzzer says it's on Island Jamaica and there are two #s: 524 117-2 and IJCD 3002. I've advised him to file it under Island UK and Island Jamaica.'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/618057 - UK?
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| − | ** ''Yeah, similar deal as the one above. I've advised guzzer to file it under Island Jamaica Jazz (new label) and Island UK.'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/441597 - UK?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/435515 - UK? label?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/257306 - poss a dupe of http://www.discogs.com/release/16868
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/512797 - UK? PY900 is a PolyGram label code
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/536318 - UK? label?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/611450 - UK? Mango?
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| − | ** ''guzzer says "no mention of Mango anywhere on it. Just Island, and the Island 40th birthday logo. Its an import as well, so its not Australia"
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/434754 - 2tk from late 90s = unlikely to be UK. German? DefJam?? no idea...
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/244982 - ? looks odd
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/147701 - German
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/433580 - German ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/244335 - German ? 4th & Bway?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/159424 - German ? 4th & Bway?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/324756 - German ? 4th & Bway?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/403062 - UK/EU
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/50240 - UK?
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| − | ** ''I asked one of the people who had it in their collection, and they said they actually had the US edition, http://www.discogs.com/release/223262 and they went ahead and swapped them in their collection. So now I asked the submitter (necnac), who confirmed that his is UK in origin. Specifically, he says "I always thought my copy was an US-pressing because of the way the vinyl looked and the innersleeve i had initially was an American custom one. An investigation of vinyl, label and cover didn't give me any hard evidence as to where the record might have been pressed. However i did find the following groove etching; on side A; "Graeme" and "ILPS 9761 A-2U-1-1-1", on side B "Masterdisk HW", ILPS 9761 B-2U-1-1-1 and SFIL-835292-(And then an unreadable character, looks a bit alike a B). Seen "Graeme" etched in more Island Records UK pressings. On the back cover the adres of Islands London office has been printed. These were the two clues i could find. So i think my copy is an UK pressing after all." I've submitted an update.'' - mjb
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| − | ===Ariola pseudo-misfiles===
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| − | Once we're certain about which Island-branded releases were issued by Ariola, we can file them all under both Ariola and Island. Some are currently under Ariola ''instead'' of Island, so we need to figure out which of those Ariola items are Island-branded, and then get them filed under the appropriate Island in Discogs.
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| − | ''I have made a 'first-pass' of possible errors on Ariola Germany 11 Apr 06. This is in no way a complete list, and all need confirming'' - onelittle
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/491221 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/52289 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/584665 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/502292 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/622184 - maybe Island Records (Germany) - not certain
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/247926 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/530476 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/572070 - Island Records (Germany) / Tuff Gong (?)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/247940 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/650115 - Island Records (Germany) ''(were they released under the Taxi brand?)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/208400 - already listed under Ariola / Island DE
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/487344 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT (A-side title wrong?)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/116063 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/255692 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/167498 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/594348 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/548659 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/87365 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records. Also how do http://www.discogs.com/release/456167 and http://www.discogs.com/release/634856 have such wildly diff cat#s? Is http://www.discogs.com/release/461897 a 2005 reissue?)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/139444 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/90879 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/472400 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/529678 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/112228 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/427074 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/655086 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/208436 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/653886 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/615497 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded Mango or Black Swan)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/595552 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/469632 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/417126 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/46299 - Island Records (Germany) ''(was the album ZTT outside of the UK?)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/598809 - Island Records (Germany) ''(Vinyl already listed as such: http://www.discogs.com/release/426069)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/322094 - unsure, maybe Island Records (Germany) / ZE
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/339403 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/537048 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/394630 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/150568 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/260946 - Island Records (Germany) ''(possibly co-branded ZE Records)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/224975 - Island Records (Germany), under license from Crépuscule
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/481412 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/422515 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/53328 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/625257 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/468883 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/561127 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/561230 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/380958 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/471197 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/433614 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/491238 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/433660 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/433602 - Island Records (Germany) / ZTT
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/382781 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/382725 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/383967 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/383958 - Island Records (Germany)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/659760 - not sure, Island DE?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/499543 - Island Records (Germany) ''(small logo on reverse scan @ http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=499543 looks like a Dacapo logo…??)''
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| − | ** ''That is definitely Dacapo. There's a ##.######.## catalogue number in the upper left. So these scans are of a release from Portugal and/or Spain, I'd say. I've written to the submitter (diseone) for clarification.'' - mjb
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| − | ===Other misfiles and mistakes===
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/223123 - cat# 572 551-2?
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| − | ** ''I contacted the submitter (Flare68).'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/20019 - Portugal?
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| − | ** ''I contacted the submitter (Vinnie).'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/314096 - EU?
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| − | ** ''I contacted the submitter (m_nu).'' - mjb
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| − | ===Island Records (UK) misfiles===
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/618159 - Island Records (Germany) ? ''the UK issue had an IS xxx #''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/589886 - Island Records (Germany) ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/162747 - Island Records (Germany) ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/153569 - ''Island Records (UK) added @ http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=1224657 - should be (US)''
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/458915 - NL
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/411058 - NL ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/161902 - DE ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/539475 - ? AN is an Antilles UK prefix
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/369283 - DE ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/579905 - DE ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/220180 - DE ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/613441 - NL ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/550362 - US ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/549881 - US ? not sure about the TuffGong cat# here
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/549933 - ''There is a DE edition (filed under Ariola) in with this same cat# but different B-side tracks: http://www.discogs.com/release/486859. I saw the "UK" one at a shop and it had the same "Taken from the album - Uprising - 202 462-320" printed on the A-side label as can be seen on the DE release in Discogs, but it also looked very new and was possibly a clever bootleg. Could not determine its origin.'' - mjb
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| − | ===Island Records (UK) inconsistent filing===
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| − | Possible partial cat#s, which might result in misfilings.
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| − | onelittle: ''quite often @ discogs, UK and INT cat#s are split between parent and sublabel. Eg, a 90s release on ZTT will have its INT cat# listed as a Warners one as it matches the parents' patterns (see http://www.discogs.com/history?release_id=636878 - ahem). My opinion is; of course it does, because the label is part of that group at time of release. UK and INT cat#s should always be on the same label IMO. (Also, as we are not cataloguing distributor links atm, we shouldn't try to interlink sublabels in such a way). This problem affects most major labels; below is a list of inconsistencies in Island UK where I believe there is no need for Island UK to be listed as a label - this should be implied by the subsidiary label's affiliation at the time of release.''
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| − | ''I'll need to sleep on that one for a while'' - mjb
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/371190 - Def Jam only?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/86660 - Def Jam only?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/347830 - Def Jam only?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/388078 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/486541 - Trade 2 only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/161907 - Mango only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/662998 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/10650 - 4th&Bway only? Missing BRCD cat# ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/78997 - legendarily dodgy cat#, this…
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/400295 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/643042 - Tuff Gong only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/496809 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/426157 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/601206 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/41677 - I think this is missing its CID # - need to confirm
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/589065 - I think this is missing its CID # - need to confirm
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/380589 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/22338 - 4th&Bway only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/550373 - poss 2nd cat#, needs confirming
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/558657 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/382831 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/158437 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/428063 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/223547 - I think this is missing its CID # - need to confirm
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/49320 - Trade 2 only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/66092 - Trade 2 only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/36125 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/36766 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/113302 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/620327 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/221364 - missing CID # ? possibly… not all Island UK albums had a CID # in this era tho
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/441059 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/532955 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/545267 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/465005 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/480536 - Island Masters only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/633592 - Def Jam, needs cat# adding and label fixing
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/94772 - ? (sleeve image added later - "maxi 33t" on sleeve - French. hmm…)
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/557978 - missing a UK cat#? Island Black Music? really not sure…
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/574733 - ? might be OK… Tuff Gong ?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/361374 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/610980 - Tuff Gong only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/610972 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/367969 - Mercury ? http://www.discogs.com/changereq?id=350840
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/609299 - not sure…
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/618057 - Island Jamaica Jazz only
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/427504 - might be OK…?
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/512788 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/436641 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/622587 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/513278 - as above
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| − | * http://www.discogs.com/release/10425 - as above
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Welcome to the Island Records research area for Discogs. If you have information about Island Records, put it here, and hopefully we can sort out the true history of this label.
Incorporation
According to the Companies House WebCHeck database, Island Records Limited incorporated on May 8, 1962. On March 29, 1999, its name changed to Universal-Island Records Limited and its current address is 364-366 Kensington High Street, London W14 8NS.
Also according to Companies House, Island Records & Music Holdings Limited, Island Records Manufacturing Limited, and Island Records Finance Limited were previously incorporated in England/Wales. The former two dissolved on June 14, 1991, and the latter dissolved one day earlier. Further information on them is in archives that can only be accessed by calling Companies House at 0870 3333636.
According to the New York Secretary of State web site, Island Records, Inc. incorporated in New York on March 2, 1970. At some point, the company name changed to Island Entertainment Group, Inc. Also, Island Records, Inc. incorporated in New York on August 12, 1982. Both companies are now listed as inactive. The current contact address is PolyGram Holding, Inc., 825 Eighth Ave, New York NY 10019.
Additional New York "Island" incorporations:
- Island Music Company, Inc. - April 27, 1966; inactive
- Island Music, Inc. - April 11, 1985; inactive
- Island Entertainment Corp. - April 2, 1987 and February 3, 1994; inactive
According to the California Secretary of State web site, Island Records, Inc. incorporated in California on June 10, 1974, at 7720 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles CA 90046. The company ceased to exist when it merged with another company. Details of the merger are not available on the web site. Also, New York-based Island Records, Inc. incorporated in California on September 17, 1982. It voluntarily surrendered its right to do business in California at some later date. Details of the surrender are not available on the web site. The current contact address is 800 Third Ave, New York NY 10022.
Logos
- 1989 to present
Offices
- 7720 Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA
- 3 E 54th St, New York, NY
- 75 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, NY
- 14 E 4th St, New York, NY — 4th & Broadway
- 400 Lafayette St, New York, NY
Timeline
- 1959 - Island Records founded as reggae label in Jamaica by Chris Blackwell and Graeme Goodall
- 1959 - Laurel Aiken's "Boogie In My Bones" tops Jamaican chart for 11 weeks
- 1960 - Lance Heywood at the Half Moon Hotel, the first LP on Island, released w/catalogue # CB 22 (22 being Blackwell's age)
- 8 May 1962 - Island Records Ltd. incorporates in the UK
- Mar 1964 - Island's first million-seller, "My Boy Lollipop", is recorded by Millie Small and released in the UK via Fontana under licence due to Blackwell's trepidation about overextending Island to meet the demand for one release
- 1964 - Blackwell & Guy Stevens launch Sue sublabel to promote US r'n'b in the UK
- 1965? - Blackwell signs Spencer Davis Group but licenses all material to Fontana
- Jan 1966 - Spencer Davis Group bumps Beatles from #1 spot on UK chart
- 1967 - Trojan Records label launched; most reggae artists are moved to it as Island moves toward progressive rock, signing Art and Traffic
- 2 Mar 1970 - Island Records, Inc. incorporates in New York state
- 1972 - Jimmy Cliff leaves Island in frustration at declining support for reggae artists
- late 1972 - The Wailers are signed to Island; Blackwell helps them record their first album for £4000
- 10 Jun 1974 - Island Records, Inc. incorporates in California, operating from Warner Bros. Records address
- 1975 - "No Woman, No Cry" becomes Bob Marley's first UK hit
- 17 Sep 1982 - Island Records, Inc. (New York) incorporates in California
- Mar 1980 - U2 signs to Island
- 1989 - Philips floats 16% of PolyGram on the Amsterdam stock exchange, valuing the whole company at $5.6 billion. PolyGram embarks on a new program of acquisitions, including A&M and Island Records in 1989.
- Jul 1989 - Island Records and Island Music acquired by PolyGram UK Group for £272 million. From this point on, Island is no longer an indie label.
- 1993 - Motown is bought by PolyGram
- 1994 - DefJam is bought by PolyGram
- Nov 1997 - Chris Blackwell resigns as CEO of Island Entertainment. (He later forms Palm Pictures.)
- 1998 - Universal Music: a new iteration in its complex history commences, when its parent company Seagram purchases PolyGram and merges it with UMG.
- 1999 - overview… The Island Def Jam Music Group is formed, thanks to Universal Music Group's desire to form a 'super label'. The Island and Def Jam imprints, meanwhile, continue to operate as their own respective labels underneath the larger IDJMG umbrella. The company also encompasses American Recordings, Lost Highway Records, Roadrunner Records, Tuff Gong and the pop and rock back catalog of Mercury Records and Casablanca Records.
- Jan 1999 - Universal announces a merger with Island and that Mercury (UK) will market Island's US repertoire
- 29 Mar 1999 - Island Records Ltd. (UK) changes its name to Universal-Island Records Ltd.
To be determined:
- The 'Island Records' brand is still used by whom, exactly? Who owns the trademarks?
- Island Records Group is a UK company; how does it fit into the timeline?
- Island Def Jam Music Group is a US company; how does it fit? We have some info, but more is needed.
(http://new.umusic.com/News.aspx?NewsId=112 umusic.com link, with info of sublabels circa 2002)
- Polydor Island Group and its predecessor Island-Mercury Labelgroup are German companies; how do they fit?
Info sources
Some good sources of info:
A couple of great diagrams:
- industry-level supply chain
- record company-level supply chain
- File:Diagram2.gif
Catalogue number formats
These are trends we have observed, not info from official sources.
- US releases via United Artists Records (early 1970s)
- UAS #### = LP
- These are filed under United Artists Records; Island is only in the fine print.
- US releases via Asylum Records (early 1970s)
- AS ##### = LP
- These have both Asylum and Island branding.
- US releases via Capitol Records (early 1970s)
- SW #### = LP, digit formats vary
- These have Island branding but mention Capitol in the fine print.
- US releases via Warner Bros. Records (1974-1982)
- ILPS #### = LP, # is the same as on original UK edition
- IS 1### = 12" (not 100% certain these are exclusively US, some are Canada)
- IS 49### = 7"
- ISD #### = 12" (not 100% certain these are exclusively US: see http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=518239)
- PRO-A-### = promo 12", 1978-1982
- These have only Island branding. Promos may have Warner Bros stickers.
- Canada releases via WEA Music of Canada (1980-1989)
- XILP #### = LP
- 79 ##### = 12"
- 92 ##### = 12" or LP
- Canada releases via MCA Records (Canada) (1981-1989)
- IS #### = 12"
- ISP #### = 12"
- Canada releases via ?
- ISC #### = cassette maxi-single, may have 5 digits
- ISL #### = LP, may have 5 digits
- ISLC #### = cassette, may have 5 digits, format varies
- ISM #### = 12"
- ISX #### = LP
- US releases via Atco/Atlantic (1982-1989, and 1989-1990 w/PolyGram barcode stickers)
- DMD ### = promo 12", may have 4 digits
- PR ### = promo 7" or promo 12", may have 4 digits
- 0-##### = 12" or EP
- 7-##### = 7"
- 7 9####-1 or 9####-1 = LP
- 7 9####-2 or 9####-2 = CD
- 7 9####-4 = cassette
- These have Island branding but mention Atco or Atlantic in the fine print. Promos may have WEA stickers. Non-promos may have a single-letter suffix on them, like 9####-1-Y, which may indicate some kind of special edition(?)
- US or Canada releases via PolyGram (1989-?)
- 162-### ###-1 = 12" on Island Red Label or 4th & Broadway
- 162-### ###-2 = CD or CD single on Island Red Label or 4th & Broadway
- 162-### ###-4 = cassette or cassette single on Island Red Label or 4th & Broadway
- 314-### ###-2 = CD or 2xCD
- 314-### ###-4 = cassette
- 422-### ###-2 = CD single
- We suspect that sometimes the prefix may be left off, e.g. ### ###-2
- Catalogue #s may overlap between US and Canada editions if tracklists are same.
- US releases via Universal (2001?-present)
- B000####-02 = CD or 2xCD
- B000####-10 or B000####-50 = CD + DVD (?)
- B000####-11 = 12" or 2x12"
- B000####-21 = 7"
- B000####-22 = CD maxi-single (?)
- B000####-32 = CD single (?)
- ISLF #####-2 = CD
- ISLR #####-1 = 12" or 2x12"
- ISLR #####-2 = CD or CD single
- The B000#### series looks to be 2003-present.
- US and Canada releases via Columbia House
- I2 ##### = CD
Packaging artifacts
This section is a dumping ground for information that helps us get a better picture of the relationship between Island and other record companies by looking at aspects of the packaging. Hopefully we can spot trends and deduce facts about Island by transcribing, describing, and examining the catalogue numbers, countries, dates, logos, and fine print. At this point, copyright notices don't seem particularly relevant, but it can be included if you want. We can also hopefully spot trends in the label/logo styles that will help us assess the correct release dates and countries.
- 19?? UK LP
- ILPS 9116
Island Records Ltd.
Manufactured and distributed by EMI Records Ltd.
(Island logo: "i" outline only)
(This is a reissue of a 1970 LP)
- 1974 US LP
- ILPS 9224 and ILPS 9251
Manufactured and distributed by Island Records, Inc.
7720 Sunset Blvd
Los Angeles CA 90046
(Island logo: "i" outline only)
(ILPS 9224 has a Warner Bros sticker on the front, and blue center labels)
- 1978 US 12"
- ISD 8654
There are also blue-label editions which may not be US in origin:
It has the orange moon on the A side, yellow moon on the B side. Fine print has non-US spelling of "unauthorised".
- 1980 CA LP
- XILP 9596
Manufactured and distributed by WEA Music of Canada Ltd.
File:R-537389-1128947265.jpeg
It has the orange moon on the A side, yellow moon on the B side.
- 1980 CA LP
- XILP 9616
Manufactured and distributed by WEA Music of Canada Ltd.
(blue center labels)
- 1980 US LP
- IL 9630
Manufactured and distributed by Warner Bros. Records, Inc.
3300 Warner Blvd
Burbank CA
and
3 E 54th St
New York NY
(blue labels)
- 1980 UK LP
- 12 WIP 6598
Manufactured and distributed by EMI Records Ltd.
(same album as IL 9630 above)
- 1981 US promo 12"
- PRO-A-936
Fine print has non-US spelling of "unauthorised". Is this really US? Was PRO-A-### used anywhere else?
- 1983 UK 12"
- 12 IS110
(P) & © Island Records Ltd.
(logo) palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame, no circular text ring
- 198? US LP
- 90091-1-B
Distributed by Atco Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(same album as IL 9630 above; copyrights say 1980)
(purple labels w/rainbow sky behind skyscraper, green script "Island")
- 1983 US EP
- 0-96974
Distributed by Atco Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(labels have white-yellow-aqua pseudo-script "Island")
(sleeve has hybrid "i" logo) TM owned by Antilles Communications Ltd.
- 1983 US promo 12"
- 1983 US EP
- 0-96974
Distributed by Atco Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(labels have white-yellow-aqua pseudo-script "Island")
(sleeve has hybrid "i" logo) TM owned by Antilles Communications Ltd.
- 1983 UK 12"
- 12 BRW 1
Licensed from Sleeping Bag Records
(P) 1983 Original sound recording made by Sleeping Bag Records
(sleeve) generic 1st generation 4th&Bway spraypaint logo design
(labels) Main logo: 4th&Bway spraypaint logo.
(labels) Secondary logos: Sleeping Bag and Island palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame, with circular text ring "Manufactured And Distributed By Island"
- 1984 US LP
- 90179-1 (7 90179-1)
Island Records Inc.
Distributed by Atlantic Recording Corp.
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
A Warner Communications Company
(original red label w/black and yellow geometric shapes;
gold-stamp promos have WEA sticker that says "Warner/Elektra/Atlantic Special Project Album - For Instore Play Only")
- 1984 US 12"
- 0-96931
- 1984 US 2xLP
- 90232-1-H
- 1985 US 12"
- 7 90288-1
Island Records, Inc.
Distributed by ATCO Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(custom ZTT labels)
(Island logo: palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame over "ISLAND") TM owned by Antilles Communications Ltd.
- 1985(?) Canada LP
- ISP 1053
Manufactured by Island Records of Canada Ltd.
Distributed by MCA Records (Canada)
(labels) blue w/yellow moon
- 1985 US 12"
- 90516-1-Y
Island Visual Arts
- 1985 US 12"
- 0-96889
Island Records, Inc.
Distributed by ATCO Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(purple labels w/rainbow sky behind skyscraper, green script "Island")
(Island logo: palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame over "ISLAND") TM owned by Antilles Communications Ltd.
- 198? US LP
- 7 90108-1
(purple labels w/rainbow sky behind skyscraper, green script "Island")
- 1985 US CD
- 7 90232-2
Manufactured by Island Records
Island Records, Inc.
distributed by ATCO Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(Island logo: palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame over "ISLAND") TM owned by Antilles Communications Ltd.
(disc) made in USA by WEA Manufacturing Inc.
(disc logo is diagonal blue "Island" script)
- 1985 US 12"
- ST-53021
Manhattan Island Records
Distributed by Manhattan Records, a division of Capitol Records
(Island logo: palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame over "ISLAND") TM owned by Antilles Communications Ltd.
(Manhattan logo) Manhattan is a registered trademark of Capitol Records, Inc.
Unfortunately, in Discogs we've been filing Manhattan Island under EMI-Manhattan Records.
I recently rejected user henkieee's submission of this LP (which I own)
for trying to file it under Manhattan Island Records. Sigh.
- 1985 US 12"
- PR 794
Distributed by Atlantic Recording Corp.
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
A Warner Communications Company
(blue script "Island" on generic sleeve; black script on center label (it's a white label promo))
- 1985 US 12"
- 0-96859
Island Records, Inc.
Distributed by Atlantic Recording Corp.
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
A Warner Communications Company
(reissue single with plain yellow label; silhouette/"i" frame logo)
- 1985 UK CD
- CID 126 (90288-2)
Manufactured by Island Record. © + (p) ZTT
(logo) palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame, with circular text ring "Manufactured And Distributed By Island"
- 1985 US 12"
- 0-96835
- 1986 US 12"
- 0-96839
- 1986 US 12"
- 0-98604
Island Records, Inc.
Distributed by Atco Records
division of Atlantic Recording Corporation
A Warner Communications Company
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
(black label w/blue ring)
(Island logo is palm/moon silhouette in "i" frame over "ISLAND") TM owned by Island Entertainment Group, Inc.
- 1986 CA 12"
- 92 05370
- 198? US LP
- 7 90033-1
Island Records, Inc.
Distributed by Atlantic Recording Corp.
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
A Warner Communications Company
(black label w/blue ring)
Obviously a reissue, but actual year
- 198? US LP
- A1 90067
Island Records, Inc.
Distributed by Atlantic Recording Corp.
75 Rockefeller Plaza, NY NY 10019
A Warner Communications Company
(black label w/blue ring)
This is a Columbia House edition, as indicated by the "CRC" and odd catalogue number.
- 1988 UK 12"
- 12 BRW 114
(P) 1988 Island Records Inc.
(sleeve) In plain black sleeve, with title sticker featuring:
4th & Broadway circular logo on LHS
circular palm-tree-in-an-"i" Island logo on RHS
"pre-fab" (pre release promo)
(labels) A-side: 4th & Broadway circular logo
(labels) B-side: circular palm-tree-in-an-"i" Island logo
- 1989 UK CD5"
- BRCD 136
(P) 1989 Island Records Ltd.
no further legal credits, no INT cat#
4th & Broadway circular logo given greater prominence on sleeve and disc
circular palm-tree-in-an-"i" Island logos also both on sleeve and disc
- 1989 US CD
- 7 91318-2 and 7 90179-2
Island Records, Inc.
14 E 4th St., NY, NY 10012
(Island logo) TM owned by Island Entertainment Group, Inc.
(disc) made in USA by WEA Manufacturing Inc.
(disc logo is black palm silhouette on yellow moon over "ISLAND")
- 1989 DE CD
- 260 350
(P) 1989 Island Records Ltd. © 1989 Island Records Ltd.
Distributed by BMG Records. Vertrieb durch BMG Ariola.
LC0407
Printed in Germany by TOPAC
(logo) 4th & Broadway circular logo given greater prominence on sleeve and disc
(logo) circular palm-tree-in-an-"i" Island logos also both on sleeve and disc
(spine) 4th & Broadway circular logo over "rainbow"
- 1990 UK Cassingle
- SIGH 4-3 / INT. 875789-4
(P) & © 1990 Owned by Island Records Ltd.
"An idea available through Sense (of Island) to be continued"
(Sense logo, which is a derivative of the black palm silhouette on white moon)
- 1990 UK 12"
- 12 BRW 196 / 878 223-1
(P) 1990 Island Records Inc. Fourth And Broadway is a division of Island Records
(sleeve logo) 4th&Bway rectangular box logo. No Island logo
(label logos) Island black palm silhouette on moon and 4+B' Circular logos. Generic orange labels
- 1990 UK CD
- IMCD 88 / 842 546-2
(P) 1990 This compilation owned by Island Records Ltd.
(disc) made in France by PMDC
(logo) Island Masters logo given prominence)
(secondary logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
(spine) text over "rainbow" reads ISLAND
- 1990 US CD
- CCD 452 / 162-440 452-2
4th & B'way™, an Island Records, Inc. company
400 Lafayette St., NY, NY 10003
(mini logo is black palm silhouette on white moon)
- 1991 (maybe 1992) US CD
- 422-866 189-2
Island Records, Inc.
14 E 4th St., NY, NY 10012
(disc) made in USA by WEA Manufacturing Inc.
(logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
- 1992 US 12"
- 422-866 977-1
Island Records, Inc.
400 Lafayette St., NY, NY 10003
(logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
- 1993 UK/EU CD
- IMCD 159 / 518 451-2
Island Records Ltd.
(logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
nb: release is not an Island Masters issue. IMCD is used here as it was a mid-price CD, but not a reissue
- 1992 US CD
- 422-866 533-2
Island Records, Inc.
400 Lafayette St., NY, NY 10003
(disc) made in USA by WEA Manufacturing Inc.
(logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
- 1993 US CD
- 162-440 590-2
4th & B'way™, an Island Records, Inc. company
400 Lafayette St., NY, NY 10003
(mini logo is white palm silhouette on black moon)
- 1995 US CD
- 162-444 073-2
QUANGO
Manufactured and marketed by Island Records, Inc.
825 Eighth Ave., NY, NY 10019
Distributed by I.L.S.
(logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
- 1996 US CD
- 162-531 046-2
Axiom™
Manufactured and marketed by Island Records, Inc., a PolyGram Company
825 Eighth Ave., NY, NY 10019
Distributed by I.L.S.
(logo is black palm silhouette on white moon over "ISLAND")
- 2002 US CD
The Island Def Jam Music Group, a Universal Music company.
Worldwide Plaza, 825 8th Ave, New York, NY 10019
- 2002 UK CD
- ### ###-2
Island Records, a division of UMG Recordings Inc.
- 2002 EU CD
- ### ###-2
The Island Def Jam Music Group, a division of UMG Recordings, Inc.
- 2002 DE CD
Island Mercury, a division of Universal Music GmbH
Strafauer Alice 1, 10245 Berlin
- 2003 UK 12" Promo
- 12SUGAX8
(P) & © 2003 Universal Island Records Ltd. A Universal Music company.
LC01846
www.islandrecords.co.uk
(logo) Universal globe logo
(logo) Island Music Group logo
- 2006 UK (EU?) CD
- CID 922 / 987 753 3
(P) Universal Island Records Ltd. A Universal Music Company. LC00407. www.islandrecords.co.uk
(logo) primary: palm silhouette on moon over "ISLAND"
(logo) secondary: black palm silhouette in a lower-case 'i' "Island Records Group"
Questionable entries on Discogs
("approx 54 sodding percent of 'em" quipped onelittle, flicking ash on his keyboard in rage)
See Island Records questionable entries.
